Wichita Police and KHP conceal truth in 12-year old girl’s death


The Kansas Open Records Act (KORA) was enacted to ensure transparency in state and local government offices. For a fee, private citizens can request official documents which the Kansas Bureau of Investigations (KBI) is then charged with locating and mailing.

Unfortunately, the people of Kansas can no longer trust KORA to provide accurate documents to the public.

On February 12, 2012, Wichita police Officer Atlee Vogt was responding to a burglary call in Downtown Wichita. Vogt was speeding north along Broadway, just south of Harry, going as fast as 51 mph in a 30 mph zone. At approximately 6:55 pm, Vogt’s police vehicle struck and killed twelve-year old Suhani Bhakta, as she was crossing the street in front of her parents’ home.

Vogt did not use his flashing lights or sirens as he sped through a block known for a high rate of pedestrian traffic, due to the grocery store being on one side of the street, with several motels on the other. Suhani’s parents, who are suing the Wichita Police Department for the wrongful death of their daughter, own and live within the Frontier Motel, which is situated directly across the street from the door to the Dillions store.

Probably because there was snow on the ground, Suhani and her cousin crossed the street mid-block, to buy some groceries for the family. If the children saw the police car approaching, they likely assumed it was going around 30 mph, as it should have been.

Suhani C. Bhatka - July 11, 1999 - February 12, 2012

Suhani C. Bhatka – July 11, 1999 – February 12, 2012

The Kansas Highway Patrol (KHP) investigates vehicle-related accidents that involve Kansas police officers. The KHP released a report in January 2013, finding Officer Vogt negligent in Suhani’s death. This report, which is available to the public, was altered from its original form.

KHP Public Report PDF

The real report is “for law enforcement purposes only” and “may not be reproduced”.

There are three glaring differences in the report that was released to the public and the report we were not meant to see.

Section IV of the police-eyes-only report, called a CHART, discusses the human factors that contributed to the accident. In the CHART report, it states:

“Driver # 1 [Vogt] was interviewed by Trooper Robinson at City Hall, the evening of the crash; Officer Vogt declined to make a statement concerning the events of that evening.”

This was completely omitted from the report that was released to the public. Not blacked-out, simply omitted.

Just below that, in the CHART report, listed under human factors, under the subheading “Alcohol and Drug Testing”,  the Kansas Highway Patrol states:

“There were no evaluations made of Driver # 1 [Vogt]. The toxicology results of the Pedestrian [Suhani] were negative of any controlled substances or alcohol.”

In other words, the police drug tested the 12 year old girl they ran over, but did not drug test the police officer who hit her with his car, while speeding without his lights or sirens on. And this too, was omitted from the report that was made available to the public.

Section VI is entitled “Analysis, Inferences and Conclusions”. In this section, on page 6 of the CHART report, a trooper with the Kansas Highway Patrol states:

“I was also hindered in my investigation due to a lack of a statement from the driver of the Ford [Vogt], due to this lack of information; an assumption must be made as to why he was decelerating. The question is why was the vehicle decelerating, was it for the perceived hazard of a pedestrian in the roadway, or the approaching intersection.”

This too, was omitted from the report that was released to the public, the report that one would receive if they filed a KORA request on this case.

Officer Atlee Vogt, despite his refusal to cooperate with investigators, despite his being found negligent, by the Kansas Highway Patrol, is still a Wichita Police Officer.

Looking at the information that was concealed from the public, it becomes immediately clear that the point of the investigation was to protect the officer. This can most clearly be seen in the fact that they drug tested the child who was crossing the street in front of her home, but not the 24 year old police officer who killed her.

The Kansas Highway Patrol and/or the KBI concealed this information, and the fact that Vogt refused to answer any questions, from the public, with the obvious purpose of  protecting an officer who is, in fact, negligent in the death of a child.

A shadow of doubt is now cast over the entire KORA process and the public’s right to be informed of matters of great concern.

And all of this happens as the Wichita Police Department quietly fires Officer Randy Williamson, for the falsification of documents. Williamson shot and killed Troy Lanning II, an unarmed man who was running away. Lanning was shot multiple times in the back.

Williamson was on the SCAT team, which makes drug-related arrests. There are probably a lot of people sitting in prison right now, based on Williamson’s testimony.

The people of Kansas have a right to information regarding officer misconduct. Police officers are not above the law. On the contrary, a police officer should be held to a higher standard than the rest of us, not a lower one.

No justice, no peace.

Kansas Open Records Act not worth the paper it was printed on?


The Kansas Open Records Act (KORA) was enacted to ensure transparency in state and local government offices. For a fee, private citizens can request official documents which the Kansas Bureau of Investigations (KBI) is then charged with locating and mailing.

Unfortunately, the people of Kansas can no longer trust KORA to provide accurate documents to the public.

On February 12, 2012, Wichita police Officer Atlee Vogt was responding to a burglary call in Downtown Wichita. Vogt was speeding north along Broadway, just south of Harry, going as fast as 51 mph in a 30 mph zone. At approximately 6:55 pm, Vogt’s police vehicle struck and killed twelve year old Suhani Bhakta, as she was crossing the street in front of her parents’ home.

Vogt did not use his flashing lights or sirens as he sped through a block known for a high rate of pedestrian traffic, due to the grocery store being on one side of the street, with several motels on the other. Suhani’s parents, who are suing the Wichita Police Department for the wrongful death of their daughter, own and live within the Frontier Motel, which is situated directly across the street from the door to the Dillions store.

Probably because there was snow on the ground, Suhani and her cousin crossed the street mid-block, to buy some groceries for the family. If the children saw the police car approaching, they likely assumed it was going around 30 mph, as it should have been.

The Kansas Highway Patrol (KHP) investigates vehicle-related accidents that involve Kansas police officers. The KHP released a report in January 2013, finding Officer Vogt negligent in Suhani’s death. This report, which is available to the public, was altered from its original form.

KHP Public Report PDF

The real report is “for law enforcement purposes only” and “may not be reproduced”.

There are three glaring differences in the report that was released to the public and the report we were not meant to see.

Section IV of the police-eyes-only report, called a CHART, discusses the human factors that contributed to the accident. In the CHART report, it states:

“Driver # 1 [Vogt] was interviewed by Trooper Robinson at City Hall, the evening of the crash; Officer Vogt declined to make a statement concerning the events of that evening.”

This was completely omitted from the report that was released to the public. Not blacked-out, simply omitted.

Just below that, in the CHART report, listed under human factors, under the subheading “Alcohol and Drug Testing”,  the Kansas Highway Patrol states:

“There were no evaluations made of Driver # 1 [Vogt]. The toxicology results of the Pedestrian [Suhani] were negative of any controlled substances or alcohol.”

In other words, the police drug tested the 12 year old girl they ran over, but did not drug test the police officer who hit her with his car, while speeding without his lights or sirens on. And this too, was omitted from the report that was made available to the public.

Section VI is entitled “Analysis, Inferences and Conclusions”. In this section, on page 6 of the CHART report, a trooper with the Kansas Highway Patrol states:

“I was also hindered in my investigation due to a lack of a statement from the driver of the Ford [Vogt], due to this lack of information; an assumption must be made as to why he was decelerating. The question is why was the vehicle decelerating, was it for the perceived hazard of a pedestrian in the roadway, or the approaching intersection.”

This too, was omitted from the report that was released to the public, the report that one would receive if they filed a KORA request on this case.

Officer Atlee Vogt, despite his refusal to cooperate with investigators, despite his being found negligent, by the Kansas Highway Patrol, is still a Wichita Police Officer.

Looking at the information that was concealed from the public, it becomes immediately clear that the point of the investigation was to protect the officer. This can most clearly be seen in the fact that they drug tested the child who was crossing the street in front of her home, but not the 24 year old police officer who killed her.

The Kansas Highway Patrol and/or the KBI concealed this information, and the fact that Vogt refused to answer any questions, from the public, with the obvious purpose of  protecting an officer who is, in fact, negligent in the death of a child.

A shadow of doubt is now cast over the entire KORA process and the public’s right to be informed of matters of great concern.

And all of this happens as the Wichita Police Department quietly fires Officer Randy Williamson, for the falsification of documents. Williamson shot and killed Troy Lanning II, an unarmed man who was running away. Lanning was shot multiple times in the back.

Williamson was on the SCAT team, which makes drug-related arrests. There are probably a lot of people sitting in prison right now, based on Williamson’s testimony.

The people of Kansas have a right to information regarding officer misconduct. Police officers are not above the law. On the contrary, a police officer should be held to a higher standard than the rest of us, not a lower one.

No justice, no peace.

WPD

State of Kansas spits on foster children


The State of Kansas has awarded a contract to St. Francis Community Services for the management of foster care services in Sedgwick County. Youthville, the former provider, will continue to provide services, subcontracting through St. Francis.

The Wichita Eagle reports that the Department for Children and Families says that nothing will change.

“We hope it will be seamless,” DCF spokeswoman Angela de Rocha said of the transition to new contractors. “We’ll continue to provide the same services. We believe the services will be better. We’re not reducing any services.”

However, local foster parents say they have already been warned that they should expect a reduction in the amount of money they receive each month.

Foster parents in Kansas generally receive $21 per child, per day, a paltry sum to raise a child on. But some children, those with disabilities, behavior disorders, or those who simply present a significantly higher challenge might receive $36 per day, still, a very small amount of money.

Local foster parents have been told that the state will only be providing $21 per day for these children, who do actually cost more to raise. These kids have doctor’s appointments that have to be kept, causing their foster parents to miss work. Some of these children may have trouble functioning in school, which can also cause parents to miss work.

These foster parents’ regular paychecks, from their non-foster parenting jobs, just got smaller due to tax increases from Washington. And now, thanks to the State of Kansas, they will be receiving another $15 dollars less each day, if not more.

Special needs children simply cost more money to raise, and we are hardly giving them any money to begin with. These are literally some of our state’s most vulnerable children, and now, the people who have dedicated their homes and their lives to these children, will have less money to spend on them.

As a former foster child in this state, I can personally attest to the fact that foster parents are often working class families, with children of their own, who open their homes to those children who are among the least fortunate in our society. And they usually do so at a financial loss.

Our Governor, Sam Brownback, has repeatedly claimed that he will reduce childhood poverty in Kansas. By all accounts, his plan revolves around taking money away from the poorest children in this state. And, because his administration is well-known for retaliating against dissent of any form, the foster parents are silenced…Brownback cuts funding to poor kids

A Kansan’s thoughts on the Westboro Baptist Church


The Westboro Baptist Church is little more than a public front for a law firm based in Topeka, Kansas. The firm, Phelps Chartered, is owned and staffed by the Phelps family, which also owns and operates the Westboro Baptist Church (WBC).

I paid the Phelps family law firm a visit...

I paid the Phelps family law firm a visit…

Fred Phelps, who started the church, is himself a disbarred lawyer, who, strangely enough, spent much of his career fighting for equal rights for minorities. The church, as most people know, travels around the nation, protesting at soldiers’ funerals, and most recently, at the funerals of the children who were slain in Connecticut last week.

WBC protesters carry signs that claim American deaths are God’s wrath for “tolerating homosexuality” in our society.

The internet collective known as Anonymous has declared war on WBC, reposting the personal information of church members. The information was originally posted by Anonymous, after they hacked the church’s website while talking to one of the Phelps’ on a live radio show.

Several months ago, I visited the Phelps’ law firm in Topeka, because we just stumbled across it on our way to the state capitol. We stopped, went inside and started asking questions about the protests.

One the Phelps daughters told us it was inappropriate for us to ask church questions at the law firm and rudely shut her window on me, which looked like it might have been made of armored glass.

Imagine that, the people who protest at funerals scolding me on addressing my grievances in the appropriate place. So we left. On our way out of town, we went back to get a few pictures. They were taking our pictures through the window as we were posing next to their sign, which appears to have taken quite a beating at some point.

As I said, the church is really nothing more than a front for the law firm. The Phelps family and their hate group do not protest based on any belief system. This is a business model for them. They purposefully seek to protest in the most offensive places so that municipalities will infringe upon their First Amendment rights.

Once this happens, they sue, and they win. Most people in Kansas tend to ignore the Phelps family and their church, because we do not want to give attention to these people.

However, their addresses, particularly the church address and phone number are being spread around the web, so I thought I would add the address and phone number of their business, since they seem to dislike receiving complaints about their church at the law firm.

Phelps Chartered

(785) 233-4162

1414 SW Topeka Blvd

Topeka, KS 66612

phelps law

Speech for Wichita City Council on Tear Gas


Mayor Brewer and members of the council,

I return to you to again request that measures be taken to form a new citizens’ review board with subpoena power, comprised of members not appointed by the city, to investigate incidents of alleged police brutality.

Last month’s tear gas incident in Old Town highlights the need for this independent panel. The police department, by all indications, was not going to disclose the tear gas incident to the media.

The department was only forced to make a statement about the incident, several days later, after the media was tipped off and began asking questions. The department’s official statements were factually incorrect, misleading and were designed to downplay the situation.

One police official actually stated, “It’s not like the Old Town area was blanketed in a fog of tear gas.”

Then the video footage was released. The department clearly did not expect this footage to be made available to the public, because we can all very clearly see the foggy blanket of tear gas that covered the only populated area of Old Town, on that Thanksgiving night.

We can also clearly see approximately 1,000 bystanders chaotically fleeing the area, and running back into the club, creating a stampede, in which several people were trampled.

The department has justified this act, citing several small disturbances throughout the night, and a need to safely disperse the crowd. One of those disturbances did result in at least one person being injured.

However, after watching the video footage from all angles, two things become abundantly clear. The vast majority of the people in the crowd were dispersing, and, regardless of what the department may say, we can all see that the vast majority of the people leaving the club, and working in the club, were much safer prior to the tear gas.

What the police department did here was quite similar to yelling “Fire!” in a crowded theater. And yet the department maintains that this was a safe and effective way to disperse the crowd.

This incident is part of a much larger problem within the department, regarding transparency and accountability, especially in regards to the policing of Old Town and the overall subject of police misconduct.

As a member of the Occupy movement, I adhere to certain principles. Some of those principles are outlined in the introduction to the Declaration of the Occupation of New York City. I would like to share that introduction with you now, so that you may have a better understanding of who I am and why I am here:

“As we gather together in solidarity to express a feeling of mass injustice we must not lose sight of what brought us together. We write, so that all people who feel wronged by the corporate forces of the world can know that we are your allies.

As one people, united, we acknowledge the reality, that the future of the human race requires the cooperation of its members; that our system must protect our rights, and upon corruption of that system, it is up to the individual to protect their own rights, and those of their neighbors.”

Personally, my goal as an activist is to provide political leverage to those people who cannot afford to buy it. We will continue to seek justice until we are satisfied that an effective infrastructure is in place to ensure that future incidents of excessive force by the Wichita Police Department are addressed in a transparent manner.

In closing, we again ask the City Council to take action and lay the groundwork for a new citizens’ review panel, with subpoena power, to investigate allegations of misconduct and excessive force by Wichita police officers. Thank you.

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Terrorist Attack in Wichita: The Truth Behind the Tear Gas


The recent tear gas incident in Wichita’s bar district was, quite literally, a terrorist attack. According to Merriam-Webster, terrorism is defined as “the systematic use of terror, especially as a means of coercion”.

To understand why the Wichita Police Department chose to deploy tear gas on over 1,000 people outside and inside of a popular dance club on Thanksgiving night, and why this was an act of terrorism, one must first examine the socioeconomic and political factors surrounding Old Town, Wichita’s entertainment district.

According to the Old Town Association, a committee of business owners in the district, Old Town businesses generate over $50 million, annually. The club that was tear gassed, Doc Howard’s, is located directly in-between two very posh hotels, the Hotel at Old Town and the Courtyard Marriott.

Doc Howard’s is one of, if not the largest of the clubs in the district, and caters to the most racially diverse customer base. Despite the club’s investment of over $100,000 in video surveillance equipment, strict prohibition of gang or drug related activity, and a unit of privately hired Wichita police officers, there are occasional disturbances outside the club, particularly when the bars close at 2 am, as is customary when large numbers of people are drinking.

Rather than effectively police the situation, officers have repeatedly resorted to unjustifiable violence to resolve incidents, rarely making arrests, even when they witness violations of the law, firsthand. The police use horses to force the crowd down the road, when the clubs close.

In that time frame, it is normal for as many as 2,000 people to fill the street. Most people move slowly in the direction of their cars, often stopping to talk with friends, or determine who is driving whom, since most of the club-goers are inebriated by the end of the night.

People have been trampled, and one young man was even tied to a horse, by a police officer, and then dragged through the street. This does not happen outside any of the other clubs in the area, or anywhere else in town, for that matter.

Fights that happen outside other clubs in the area are generally ignored by police, who may break up the fight, but make no arrests. Loiterers are not harassed outside the other clubs in the area. But the people who leave Doc Howard’s just before 2 am are herded like cattle, down the road, and forced into their cars, in the name of clearing the area to maintain public safety. Again, this does not happen outside any of the other clubs.

In September, the Wichita City Council passed a series of ordinances after a spate of incidents in Old Town. The ordinances gave police more power to cite people not leaving the area fast enough, added more cameras and reworded an ordinance determining which clubs can cater to customers who are adults, but not yet at the legal drinking age, which, in Kansas, is 21.

These ordinances were lobbied for by the Old Town Association, and opposed by the owners of Doc Howard’s. The problem with these ordinances is that they do little to address the actual problem. The ordinances require club owners to provide security outside their clubs, and particularly in adjacent parking lots.

These parking lots are actually where the majority of the problems occur. They are not well-lit, and are not patrolled by the police. Unfortunately, the club owners’ insurance policies do not cover their employees when they are in these adjacent parking lots, so no one is securing these areas.

When these ordinances passed, the owners at Doc Howard’s made the decision to stop paying four Wichita police officers to provide private security outside the club. These officers were each being paid $37.50 per hour, by Doc Howard’s. However, the Wichita Police Department determines who can actually hire these off-duty but uniformed officers, and who cannot.

Doc Howard’s cannot hire these officers directly, so they are required to contract them through the Old Town Association. The Old Town Association has determined that Doc Howard’s is bad for their businesses, and many of those owners want Doc Howard’s shut down. The high class hotels in the area feel that having large numbers of drunk minorities walking by is detrimental to their sales revenue.

Many of the business owners that comprise the Old Town Association also have very close ties to members of the Wichita City Council, which passed these ordinances, that were clearly designed to harm Doc Howard’s business. In fact, one member of the City Council actually held their victory celebration in the Hotel at Old Town, after the election.

So essentially, Doc Howard’s was paying these police officers who were, in all actuality, working against the club for the Old Town Association. So, a few weeks ago, Doc Howard’s stopped paying the private police unit. And that is when the real problems started.

Now we come back to Thanksgiving and the tear gas incident outside the club. According to Wichita Police Chief Norman Williams, one canister of tear gas was deployed in response to multiple small disturbances outside the club, although video evidence and eye witness reports do not support these claims.

There was an altercation, with at least one patron being injured, but the vast majority of the people in the crowds were not involved, nor even close to the fight. The police are claiming that the fight was the reason for the tear gas, but evidence suggests that the fight was actually just an excuse to tear gas the crowd.

What is known, is that tear gas was deployed, just as the club-goers had started filing out of the door. Approximately 1,000 people were either in the street outside the club, or still exiting the building when the tear gas was deployed. The chaos that ensued was captured on multiple security cameras and the videos are embedded below.

The security cameras that were installed after the ordinances passed were, according to Chief Williams, not functioning. The police department failed to inform the media of the incident for several days. In fact, if certain members of the media had not been tipped off (by me), the police never would have made any statement regarding this incident.

When the Chief did finally release a statement, he downplayed the situation and repeatedly claimed that the tear gas was the safest way to disperse the crowd, which is absolutely ridiculous when one views the video footage. The reality is that the crowd was dispersing, and the tear gas caused an extremely dangerous situation in which people were trampled.

When Chief Williams released his statement, he had not seen the video footage, and did not expect it to be released. Chief Williams says the tear gas was justified and reasonable, although local civil rights attorney Jim Thompson disagrees. Thompson says that the officer’s actions put far more people in danger and that those people have a cause for action in civil court. Thompson represents Doc Howard’s and also spoke out against the ordinances when they were first proposed by the City Council.

Now, just over a week after the tear gas attack, Doc Howard’s has rehired the private police officers. However, the officers demanded a pay increase, and are now paid $60 per hour, each. Just to clarify and reiterate:

This private police unit was making $37.50 per hour, apiece. Then Doc Howard’s stopped paying the officers, because the officers seemed to cause more harm than good, primarily because they were actually employed by enemies of the club. So then the department tear gassed 1,000 club goers, including the entire staff of Doc Howard’s. Now, the private police unit has been rehired, but demanded an unreasonable pay increase, with assurances that there will be no more trouble.

The tear gas attack in Old Town was a terrorist attack, and it was extortion, in its purest form.

The videos below show that the crowd was clearly dispersing in a safe manner prior to the tear gas. Then, chaos erupts as gas fills the street and the inside of the club. The first two videos are raw, uncut footage from Doc Howard’s surveillance cameras. The third video is an edited cut, in which the police chief’s false statements are dubbed over footage of the carnage. Below that is a link to the video of Chief Williams’ uncut statement. I urge you to view them all, in their entirety.

Lt. Doug Nolte denied that there was a fog of gas, that the amount used was very small. Nolte also says the use of tear gas, outside, is rare, due to wind factors. 

“We put out a small canister of it – it’s not like the Old Town area was blanketed in a fog of tear gas,” Nolte said.

Wichita Police Chief Norman Williams’ uncut statement

Lt. Doug Nolte denied that there was a fog of gas, that the amount used was very small. Nolte also says the use of tear gas, outside, is rare, due to wind factors. 

“We put out a small canister of it – it’s not like the Old Town area was blanketed in a fog of tear gas,” Nolte said.

WPD

مصر: “لم نعد خائفين”


الشعب المصري لا تزال تقف ضد الفساد الذي ما برحت تكابده حكومتهم، على الرغم من الإطاحة السلمية للنظام مبارك القمعي في عام 2011. بينما المحللين والخبراء في شتى أنحاء العالم في المستقبل مصر النقاش، مع احتمالات لصالح دكتاتورية دينية مماثلة إلى المملكة العربية السعودية، واحدة على الأقل المصري هو قول لا.

وقد كتب الرسالة التالية من قبل مجهول المصرية، التي يجري إخفاؤها الهوية لأغراض أمنية، وذلك بسبب جهود الحكومة المصرية متواصلة من أجل قمع حرية التعبير:

أعتقد من الأفضل بالتأكيد مصر الآن. بالطبع، أولئك الذين اعتادوا على دعم النظام القديم نختلف، ولكن نعم انها بالتأكيد أفضل لأن الناس الآن لم تعد تخشى وأنها لن تقبل أي وقت مضى طاغية مرة أخرى.

لدينا طريق طويل جدا للذهاب، وبطبيعة الحال، الكثير من الامور لا تسير حيث نريد لها، خاصة أن بعض الناس من النظام القديم يقاتلون للحفاظ على الذهاب مع الفساد وجوه جديدة، ولكن لأول مرة في مصر ، لقد انتخبنا رئيسا.

انه ليس بالضبط ما كنا نصبو إليه، لسوء الحظ، فإن رموز الثورة لم يتمكنوا من الحصول على أصوات كافية كما تم تقسيم أصواتنا، ولقد انتهى الأمر الحاجة إلى الاختيار بين شخص فاسد جدا من النظام القديم ورجل من مسلم الإخوان.

فاز رجل من جماعة الاخوان مسلم والتي جعلت الكثير من الناس غير راضين، ولكن كنا سعداء أن الآخر لم يربح. لدينا أصابعنا عبرت في الوقت الراهن و[و] أمل انه سوف الوفاء بوعوده لمصر أفضل.

لديه 4 سنوات، ثم سنقوم بانتخاب شخص آخر، ولكن شيء واحد [هو] على وجه اليقين: يجري حارب بشراسة من قبل النظام السابق. انهم يحاولون جعل له تفشل ونحن نحاول دعم له حتى النظام القديم لا يأخذ السيطرة مرة أخرى.

فمن الصعب جدا ومعقدة، ولكن الشيء الجيد هو أنه إذا كان يحاول قمع الشعب أو السيطرة بنا للحصول على الفوائد، وقال انه سوف يواجه ثورة أخرى، ما دام الناس هنا ليسوا خائفين من الكلام هناك أمل. الخوف كان حقا عدونا الاكبر.

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أفضل جزء هو الآن يمكننا دعم رئيسنا عندما يفعل أشياء جيدة، والوقوف ضده عندما نرفض شيئا يريد أن يفعله. لأول مرة الشعب في السيطرة تماما مثل الحكومة والرئيس. أننا لم نعد الدمى في يد حكام البلاد.

عندما ألقيت مبارك من منصبه في حزب مسلم، ظهرت فجأة وبدأت في صنع مطالب تطبيق القوانين الإسلامية التي ليست في الواقع الإسلامي للغاية. والملتوية العديد من تلك القوانين من قبلهم لتناسب أغراضهم الخاصة.

أرادوا لقمع بنا عن طريق استخدام الدين كسلاح وكان عابث سوى بعض منهم في رؤوسهم. أرادوا السلطة وكانوا ذكي بما فيه الكفاية لمعرفة أن الدين هو طريقة ذكية للحصول عليه.

الدين هو موضوع حساس جدا هنا في مصر وهذا هو مشكلة كبيرة. كثير من الناس، الآن، بعد الثورة، يدعون أنهم الدينية والبدء في اختراع الأشياء التي لا علاقة لها بالإسلام، والإعلان عن ذلك لإقناع الناس أنه صحيح.

كنا خائفين في البداية، ولكن الغالبية لم تقبل كونها مضطهدة، سواء عن طريق القوة الغاشمة أو الدين. ونحن لن تصبح مثل المملكة العربية السعودية لأننا نرفض مثل هذه الأشياء أن يحدث في مصر. حتى حزب مسلم، يدركون أنهم لا يستطيعون القيام بذلك. انهم لا يزالون يقاتلون من أجل ذلك، ولكن ما نخسر تماما الآن.

أهم شيء هنا هو أن تكون معروفة أن جماعة الإخوان مسلم ليست تلك التي حاولت أن تفعل أي من ذلك. نعم، انهم يريدون السلطة وأيضا أنها تستخدم أيضا الدين، ولكنها تستخدم بطريقة معتدلة. هم الذين كانوا يفعلون ذلك كانت مجموعة تسمى . لم يكن جميع من لهم سيئة ولكن كانت أكثر من غيرها.

النظام معطوب التي سقطت يحاول إقناع الناس أن الإخوان مسلم يريد أن يجعل مصر مثل المملكة العربية السعودية وإيران أو كثير من الناس يعتقد ذلك. هذا هو السبب في انهم يقاتلون من الرئيس الجديد أيضا. وكانت مصر دائما وستظل معتدلة من هذا القبيل.

لن نسمح أبدا أي نوع من الظلم هنا. إذا كان الرئيس الجديد يحاول أي شيء من هذا النوع، فإن الناس هنا يأكلون منه على قيد الحياة

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